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Post  Agamemnon Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:22 pm

The new OOC thread. Same rules as the old one.
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Post  Agamemnon Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:16 pm

Hey guys, Sid's coming back! We have four people, making the game slightly less of a waste of time! Razz
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Post  Mik Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:51 pm

cheers Huzzah!
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Post  Agamemnon Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:40 pm

Alrighty then, let's get on with it.
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Post  kingsid987 Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:41 pm

How is life my good men Very Happy
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Post  Mik Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:07 pm

Quite nice good sir, welcome welcome Smile.

Now gents, shall we begin? Fo' shizzle this time
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Post  kingsid987 Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:44 am

I still haven't got a proper forum thingy.
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Post  Mik Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:18 pm

What's your faction? I think I can make you one.
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Post  kingsid987 Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:05 pm

Its Dardanian Kingdom, but wheres aggy??
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Post  Agamemnon Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:43 pm

Sorry about this guys, I had thought you and cooki had left Mik.

Well, we may as well get started. I've got all your emails (trololo), so I'll email cooki a notice of starting. BTW, Sid, your forum hath arrived.

Let's put the start date on Saturday, to give ample time for faction building, eh?

Oh, and we forgot about populations. Just find a historical source for it.

The best I can seem to find puts Greece at 8 mil, Egypt at 7 mil, and all of Achaemenid Persia at 30 mil. Most likely I could cut another 8 mil off that since Anatolia was more or less the same as Greece throughout history, and given the prosperity of the Mesopotamian regions I'd expect about 10 mil between there and Caucasus+modern Persia. That means that 12 mil are left over, which can be distributed reasonably with 6 mil in fertile Israel (which would corroborate with Biblical statistics as well) and 5 mil in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Arabia most likely would have had <500,000, so we can give it 300,000 or so of the remains, mostly in Saba and the northern bit next to the Sinai peninsula. The other 700,000 I suppose could be put in the far fringe areas like Bactria. India always has a ridiculous population and Alexander couldn't beat them with his Persian army, so I'd expect another 10-15 mil there too.

That's my best estimate, and based on it I'm giving myself 2 mil (I own the southern half of Israel)
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Post  kingsid987 Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:00 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardanians_(Balkans)

This game has a perfect start date for my nation. As for population I am unsure, it's hard to trust any source on populations of Balkan region at this period in time. What do you think? Also region wise how does the map look at the present? All my stuff will be sorted by Saturday, hopefully a good game folks Very Happy
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Post  Agamemnon Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:33 pm

I really don't know. At the time it was considered part of Greece, and it's a low-population area in comparison to say Attica, so I'd guess around 1 mil, 2 mil at the highest estimate.
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Post  Mik Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:55 pm

Ello mates Smile and no Aggy I hand't left haha Razz
How does 2-3Mil sound for Sicily?
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Post  kingsid987 Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:05 pm

I can't really do anything on guestamations, I believe it would not be huge as the region was not very populated, although I would prefer not to be powerless in comparison to you others. A fixed population please? Very Happy
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Post  Mik Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:56 pm

I vote fixed pop. As well! 3Million for each player to start?
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Post  Agamemnon Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:24 pm

Sure, 3 mil would work.
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Post  Mik Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:41 pm

Kk Let's deu this
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Post  Agamemnon Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:43 am

Awesome. I think we should also each take two factions, btw, as we just don't have enough to run a real game.
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Post  Mik Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:44 am

Agreed, no superpowers though. I suggest a minor nation or city state
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Post  kingsid987 Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:29 am

Mik i used your things as a template, hope you dont mind Laughing. 2 nations will cause difficulty, bottom line you wont declare war on yourself so how is that fair?
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Post  Mik Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:45 pm

Well the way I thought of it was that your second nation must be minor at best and to some extent far from your primary nation so you can't ally your two together and dominate an area (Eg, Im Sicily and I take Carthage, the Med is basically mine.) So to keep it fair, choose a small nation that is far from your original (Eg Im Sicily with *Insert insignificant Barbarian Tribe/City State.)
Im all for it but Im okay if we don't use it Razz
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Post  cooki3 Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:01 pm

I think the Peloponnese would have about 3 million, right?
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Post  Agamemnon Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:51 pm

We already decided on 3 mil across the board.

And I had assumed that that was obvious. I would make a Germanic nation, for example (oh the irony).
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Post  Mik Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:34 pm

Haaaha subtle. I'd have to go with a Slavicish type of Barbarian tribe, I'll be near Russia
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Post  kingsid987 Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:46 am

Is it ok for me to opt out? I don't mind doing it but I do not really want to do it.
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